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Temo Jick	Posted - 2006.10.26 22:34:00 - [1] Originally by: Hllaxiu Edited by: Hllaxiu on 26/10/2006 14:31:35 [ Because all noncapital Gallente combat craft have a Small/Medium/Large Hybrid Bonus? False. The Imicus isnt a very good combat ship admitedly but its three light drones and bonus to drone range mean it can do nasty things to other frigates if they are set up for Long range. It has no hybred damage bonus.
Temo Jick	Posted - 2006.10.27 17:52:00 - [2] Edited by: Temo Jick on 27/10/2006 17:54:31 Originally by: Alex Harumichi Originally by: Black Scorpio If you are willing to relinquish that 1 high slot 150drone space is ok. You want a drone boat, here you go. I think also the Myr should also have only drone bonuses, since it's a drone boat. If drones are your weapon there you go 150 space is plenty and you have a wide variety and flexibility. Well, I'd be ok with one less gun if it let me use 5 heavy drones and have some spares (would pref. need 175-200m3 drone space so there's more than one spare drone, but that's details). ...and the Myr already has only drone (offensive) bonuses, the other bonus is an armor repair one. No gun damage bonus (which is part of the problem, the drones are the only serious damage source). So yeah, make it 8 highs with 4 turrets and 4 "utility" slots, and boost the drone bay, and I'll be a happy camper. Take all its high slots for all I care. I just want a working drone boat. Edit: just inserted the word 'working' thats rather important.
Temo Jick	Posted - 2006.10.27 19:54:00 - [3] Originally by: Centurin Originally by: Black Scorpio You people starting to like me yet? When you start being constructive, I'll start to like you. I think he was coming around to the drone side a bit there, lets not scare him off ^.^ To Smokedog, with just level one in BC the Myrmidon will be just as bad off. Ship bonuses make a huge differances.
Temo Jick	Posted - 2006.10.27 20:23:00 - [4] Edited by: Temo Jick on 27/10/2006 20:25:54 Originally by: Max Hardcase Originally by: Nebuli Originally by: Max Hardcase Myrmidon : Change drone bonus to 15%/level for medium and light scout drones ONLY ! Up the the drone bay to say 125 or 150m3. No worries about using teh ebil heavy drones so they can unnerf the drone bay volume. The Drone bonus is now right in between the Vexor and Domi, which makes sense since a BC is right in between cruisers and battleships in the order of things. Fixed ! Next problem please. Still yet to see a good reason why the Myr using heavy drones makes it overpowered. Cause you have a domi if you want teh uber hvy drones ? Seriously though the limitations of bonus to "correct size" drone types should have been done a long time ago. It makes sense for guns and launchers, makes sense for drones as well. Hmm if they really want to make it a standoff Droneboat why not add a 10%/level to drone MWD speed as well It only makes sense for drones if this BC can't field more then 5. Personally I donÆt want that it means more lag and itÆs a step back to eveÆs past, but hay its better then the broken BC we have right now so I'll take it if I have to. BC's so far have not had bigger guns/launchers then cruisers because they could have more of them. But you can only have 5 drones out unless you fly a Guardian Vexor (super rare for a reason) or a carrier. That means a drone ship of the BC class has to either have more medium drones for its damage or bigger drones for its damage. Personally I think more then 5 medium drones would be a more overpowered option then 10 heavyÆs as medium drones are faster smaller have better tracking and you can get tech II with far less training then you need for tech II heavyÆs. Personally I wouldnÆt even use regular heavy drones over regular mediums because of the bad tracking.
Temo Jick	Posted - 2006.10.27 20:46:00 - [5] Originally by: Dwight Hammerhead Giev Nighthawk one more missile slot for a total of 7, this allwing it to do more damage than the drake, other than that I dont rly see a reason to fly the expensive nighthawk when u can always go with a fully ensurable T1 version of it. Giev more missile slot.. or bump! Hear is one reason Role Bonus: 99% reduction in Warfare Link module CPU need Granted its the only reason i can think of.
Temo Jick	Posted - 2006.10.27 20:59:00 - [6] Originally by: Dwight Hammerhead Lol I have a vulture for when i have to fit gang modules, thank you. A tier 2 t1 BC having the same dmg as command ship? I dont see this happening to the other races Sorry wasnÆt trying to make an argument against you, caldari ships arenÆt my area of experience. Was just volunteering a reason that sprang to mind.
Temo Jick	Posted - 2006.10.27 21:42:00 - [7] Originally by: Illuminaty Originally by: Butter Dog Anyway, on topic: The Myrm clearly does need a larger drone bay, or SOME kind of change so that it isnt useless when the drones pop. As it stands, there is absolutely no reason to use a Myrm rather than a Brutix. Way lower DPS and an extra mid just doesnt cut it. I'm not even thinking about the drones because any competent pilot will instapop them knowing full well they are the only real DPS on the ship. I'm in total agreement here. Brutix does more damage and has a repper bonus too. Only a Brutix needs a MWD and booster charges to do that, both of which don't work for missions. Vexors are too fragile to run level 3 missions, and Dominix are too expensive on level 2 income. So thats really what the Myr is. A level 3 mission boat. Only having 100m3 of drone space on a mission boat isn't a factor because you just don't lose drones to NPCs. Giving a mission drone boat a 125m3 bay would also mean 'dominix damage' on missions since you don't fit a lot of guns or fire them much. So basically, the Myr is nothing more than a dressed up mining barge. Make that a medium mining barge. In most cases the dommie will out do that too.
Temo Jick	Posted - 2006.10.29 22:43:00 - [8] I havnt boverd to check so if you would like to look it up you can probably prove me wrong. But i thought that between the bonuses of T2 launchers/turrets and the T2 Amunition for them they were improved by more then the drones were hence ballenced. Now if this was the case then with the T2 ammo nerf it may not be any more. Maybe some one should check. Im too lazy ^.^

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